From “Dream Job” to Real Alignment: Jerrid Sebesta on Reinventing Your Life

Jerrid Sebesta: [00:00:00] It’s because we get stuck in the 1%. There’s a tropical storm on an ocean, right? Huge waves swells white water chaos. Under the ocean, you might have 2, 3, 4 miles of ocean water. What’s down there? Peace, calm. And so many of us, we live in that, that, that, that 1% that way, that’s how I lived Charles for, for decades 

Charles Eide: this week.

Introduction [0:20]

Charles Eide: On Clear for takeoff, I have Jared Esta. Jared used to be a weatherman on TV all over the country, and now he’s changing people’s lives with his incredible story. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Your Life works in kind of three year chunks, and I noticed as I got into my thirties, those three year segments of life got faster, faster, faster, but I was probably at the height of my career.

They could come at me and double my pay. And under no circumstances am I staying. Pain is inevitable. There are things that are gonna happen that are painful. You’ll lose somebody that’s painful, but suffering is a choice, but I hold onto that grudge. I don’t forgive. Now you’re suffering. 

Charles Eide: I don’t think there’s anything wrong with, Hey, give something new.

A [00:01:00] try and going all in is some sort of level of insanity. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Go all in baby and want it and desire it and believe that you’re worthy to have it right. There’s nothing more stressful than having to get up and go to a fricking life or a job that isn’t an alignment to who we are. There’s a foundational belief that I had for 43 years that started to shift after I had that lockout one day.

The biggest shift in my belief system from then to now is that I. 

Charles Eide: Jared Esta. It’s great to have you 

Jerrid Sebesta: so pumped to be here, man. It’s gonna be awesome. 

Charles Eide: So you, I just have to get this straight. You are a TV weatherman. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Yeah. 

Charles Eide: And you made a complete change in your life. And I just, I’m like, gosh, this guy’s on top.

I mean, you were in my local market. Yeah. I would watch you on tv. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Right. 

Charles Eide: And then all of a sudden you were gone. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Yeah. 

Charles Eide: And you went and did something completely different. And I was fascinated by it. And I’m so inspired and I, I, I wanna understand what happened. [00:02:00] 

Jerrid Sebesta: Yeah. What really happened behind the scenes.

Jared’s TV Career & The Longing to Leave [2:02]

Charles Eide: Give us the juice. 

Jerrid Sebesta: You know, I, again, just to back up the tape. Yeah. TV’s a rough biz. Uh, you’re starting in low level. I mean, you’re starting in like tiny markets. I started in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, which all due respect was a great market to start in. I, I was working at the last PlayStation. 12 people were watching Max every night, you know, get paid eight bucks an hour.

Yeah. This is early 2000. This is 25 years ago, you know, and, uh, you kind of climbed the chain, made it to Phoenix, which is a bigger market even than Minneapolis St. Paul. And, and then, uh, you know, post kind of like the, you know, the housing crash, you know, 2010 stuff started to come back. And then Carol Levin, you know, kind of like the quintessential, legendary station called and, and it’s my home state.

I grew up watching Carol Levin. Right. I grew up watching, you know, the people that I was now working alongside and, and, uh, made a name for myself in a really short period of time. And. I had my own hashtag, I dunno if you remember this, it was called Blame Jared. I got blamed for all the horrible weather and, and it just became kind of a [00:03:00] thing.

I’d go to, you know, Timberwolves games and people would be like, blame Jared. Hey, what’s up? You know? And I got the chance to meet celebrities. I, you know, throughout the first pitch at twins game, I mean, I literally was living the dream. I’m a trailer park kid. With all the respect from southwest Minnesota.

None of my friends had a chance to do these things. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And here I was in, you know, 33, 34 years old. Yeah. Doing it, you know, and all I had to do was basically go accept it, do it every weekend. 

Charles Eide: Yeah. 

Jerrid Sebesta: And take the paycheck and, you know, retire, you know, probably a TV legend, so to speak. And something was, there was a longing inside of me that started long before I, I left.

Right. When 

Charles Eide: did that start happening? 

Jerrid Sebesta: It’s interesting you bring that up. It started before I even got to Minnesota. I remember just getting married out in, I’m out in Phoenix, Arizona with my wife. We don’t have kids yet. You know, I’m in my twenties and I remember thinking, you know, I just don’t know if TV’s gonna be, I don’t know if I’m gonna retire a TV weatherman.

And the opportunities kept coming. It’s not like I had kind of passed my, the peak, you know? And so [00:04:00] that longing was kind of always there. Your life works in kind of three year chunks in TV because you signed three year deals. And I noticed as I got into my thirties, those three year segments of life got faster and faster and faster.

And you could sense life was accelerating, but I really wasn’t doing anything else. And inside there was this stirring and this longing. I remember coming to the decision, nobody else knew this, but I was probably at the height of my career, six months away from the end of my, my next contract. And I remember having the conversation, my wife.

And I remember saying like, under no circumstances am I signing on, they could come at me and double my pay. And under no circumstances am I staying. That’s no disrespect. I mean that’s no disrespect to my current employers. It’s just where I was and what I felt called to do. I would’ve felt like I was literally slapping God in the face on the trajectory where I felt I was called to go to stay another three years.

[00:05:00] Does that make sense? 

Charles Eide: Yeah. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Isn’t it interesting when people make a massive shift in their life, whether out of a relationship, jumping out of a career, starting a business, if you asked them just what you asked me, when did that longing start? You know what they say years ago? Years ago? It’s not something that comes up this week.

Last year, it’s usually a long time ago. There’s this stirring and so not to get like super deep right away. I felt like me leaving TV was honoring who God created me to be. Mm-hmm. There was something more waiting for me. I had no idea what was ahead. I could have never guessed that the next, you know, 10 to 15 years would look like what they have been.

’cause it’s been about 10 to 15 years already. That’s crazy to think. But it took that step. It took that leap. It took me jumping into the unknown. To get to the next step and the next step. And so what I did was no different than anybody else making a, a pivot. I just did it in the public eye and a lot, it caught a lot of people off guard.

It caught my, my family off guard. My dad [00:06:00] was living vicarious through me. He loved being like Jared’s dad, you know, because that’s how he was known around his town and still is to some extent. You know 

Charles Eide: your son’s at Weatherman, 

Jerrid Sebesta: right? Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, he loved telling the story. He’s my biggest fan still to this day, you know, and so, but it, it was me honoring something deep inside of me and I’m so glad I did it.

I’m so thankful for the opportunities I had that TV gave me. Nobody can take that away. It’s always a great conversation story. You were TV weatherman and, uh, it gave me tremendous opportunities to do tremendous things. I’m so thankful for it, but what I’m doing now, I needed that to go to the next level, to the next level.

And I think, again, just to get right into it, there are things that we have to shed if we wanna go to our next level. Sometimes we have to let go of certain things, and for me, TV was a season and I needed to let it go. 

Identity Crisis After Leaving TV [6:44]

Charles Eide: Did you feel like the TV thing was. Like you were, you were gonna lose something by stepping away from that.

I mean that obviously there’s a lot of people that would kill to have that job you had. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Yeah. 

Charles Eide: Like did you feel like you were taking a huge risk? 

Jerrid Sebesta: I didn’t know if I was [00:07:00] taking a risk, but I knew I was gonna go through an identity crisis, which I did. This is, it’s embarrassing Charles to tell this story.

When I left tv, we moved to a very small town, rural West Central Minnesota, where I still currently live. Who who’d have thought right. I remember going to the grocery store with my wife, even like a year after I left tv, I would purposely go to the grocery store and just kind of hang by the front door and just kind of make eye contact with, see if people 

Charles Eide: were 

Jerrid Sebesta: like, Hey.

Exactly. And then I’ve 

Charles Eide: seen you on the news. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Yes, exactly. And then inevitably, like once a month, you know, some old lady be like, do I know you? And I’m like, well, I used to be on tv. You know, it’s just embarrassing. It’s embarrassing. And uh, 

Charles Eide: you were like clinging to the fame of being a weatherman, 

Jerrid Sebesta: holding on to an old identity As long as I could.

It took two years. Charles did it. Really? Oh yeah. Two years. Two years to finally let go and to finally understand who I was. And so again, it’s, there’s, it’s so interesting in life. Where there has to be sometimes a death for there to be a new birth. There has to be something you let go of to achieve [00:08:00] something bigger.

Right. And so sometimes what sense, what feels like loss in a lot of ways is actually your portal to the next level. And so, again, at the time I did not understand this, what this conversation, but looking back it was such a great thing for me to understand, build, create, and then let go of it. 

Charles Eide: I mean, I feel like that about COVID.

Mm-hmm. Because being in the events industry, COVID felt like that. It felt like a death. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Absolutely. 

Charles Eide: I, I thought I was gonna be flipping burgers. I was like, this is it. Mm-hmm. We’re done. And it was crazy because I was, for the first time in my whole life, truly afraid. Mm-hmm. And it, looking back, COVID was probably one of the best things that ever happened to me in my company.

And, and in the moment I hated every second of it. You know, 

Jerrid Sebesta: it’s. Yeah, 

Soul Work & What Jared Does Now [8:52]

Jerrid Sebesta: let’s go down to the soul level. People ask me, they’re asking like, what do you, what do you do? Now, we’ll get into that. What do you, what do you, what do you talk about? You’re motivational [00:09:00] speakers. What do you talk about? 

Charles Eide: So give me the, uh, 

Jerrid Sebesta: yeah, 

the 

Charles Eide: pitch, 

Jerrid Sebesta: you know, pitch me.

So are you a lead? Like, what, what’s, what’s your shtick? You know, honestly. And I, I, I hesitate sharing this because sometimes it scares people away. Especially, you know, companies that may wanna, you know, consider bringing me in. I’m doing soul work. 

Charles Eide: Mm. 

Jerrid Sebesta: We’re we’re getting down to the, to the soul, to like, if your soul is healthy and aligned and corrected and you know, truly being expressed to how it’s supposed to be, this is where you find the fulfillment, the life, the peace.

This is what everybody wants, right? We think that we want the car and the money and all those things, and they’re okay and isn’t around those things, but just achieving those things is not really what our soul is crying out for, you know? And, and, and it’s interesting. And I, and I’ve, and I’ve just become so much more attuned to this in the last, you know, especially 10 years, even more so the past five years.

’cause I had one of those moments too, post COVID, where it was like, dude, this is like, I don’t wanna say rock bottom, but it was one of those really inflection points in my life, right? Is it possible that like our soul actually wants that [00:10:00] contraction? It wants that contrast. It actually thrives when it’s pressed upon.

When we feel the pressure, when we feel the uncertainty, right? Because we can always look back and be like, man, if I look back, that was the most pressure, anxiety, and uncertainty I’ve ever had. Perhaps the first time where I’m wondering like, dude, I don’t even know if I’m gonna have a company. I don’t know if we’re gonna make it through this.

Right? And you look back and you’re like, by golly, it was actually the best thing that could have ever happened to me. Who’d have thought? Is it, is it possible? There’s actually a technology there that that is actually how we are supposed to operate, 

Charles Eide: but yet we avoid it with everything we’ve got. Why?

’cause it’s scary. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Scary, right? So there’s a, ’cause you 

Charles Eide: don’t know 

Jerrid Sebesta: there’s opposing forces happening. In our minds there, there’s a thing called the ego, right? Our ego actually wants to keep us safe. I, I explain ego. I mean, people could sometimes explain. Ego is kind of like the arrogance. The selfishness. And it can be the way I look at ego, it’s the overprotective mother.

It’s trying to keep you real safe. That’s why when most people [00:11:00] try to elevate to their next level, they feel afraid. The fear is coming from this internal force that’s actually just trying to keep you safe. I don’t know if you or anybody else, like listening or watching had a overprotective mother. I did.

If it was up to my mom, I would’ve, I would’ve been wrapped in bubble wrap and never left the house. Uh, she passed away last year. God rest her soul. We’ll talk about that. But as a full blown adult, I would say, uh, Hey, you know, I’m traveling to so and so and we’re taking the kids to such and such, and they’re like, oh yeah, careful.

Are you sure you wanna do that? Someone 

Charles Eide: died on that road once. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Oh, is that safe? Are you sure you wanna do that? You shouldn’t be working so hard. I remember I went to college at the University of North Dakota to play basketball, and it was killing me. You know? I said, just quit. Just come home. Just come home and I’ll make you some dinner and make it all better.

Right? Our ego operates that way. Here’s the thing though. We need that opposing force in our life. You need that. Think of it like a seesaw, right? If you wanna elevate, and they don’t have these anymore, you know, we grew up with these, you go out to it this 

Charles Eide: before, all the safety stuff for [00:12:00] playgrounds, 

Jerrid Sebesta: it was all just metal, concrete, you know?

There was 

Charles Eide: just tetanus waiting to happen. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Now you go out and there’s like rubber, you know, pellets everywhere. You could fall on your head and not hear yourself. We didn’t have that. And you can’t find a seesaw anywhere, nowhere. So for those of you watching this, who like didn’t grow up in that era, 

Charles Eide: Google it.

Jerrid Sebesta: Google it. And you could take, you know, if you were, if you were fatter than your friend, you know what, you know where I’m going? 

Charles Eide: Yeah. 

Jerrid Sebesta: You could sit at the bottom and your friend, you could, you know, jack him up like 10 feet in the air and he, he was powerless, right? These opposing forces in our life are actually what elevate us.

The, the, the more uncertainty, fear, anxiety, the unknown. If you can have the right perspective on those things, those are the opposing forces that actually. Elevate us. 

Charles Eide: Hmm. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Those are the portals, those are the springboards. And Charles, if, if I were to hear myself five years ago saying this, it makes zero sense, no sense whatsoever.

This is just what I’ve learned in the last couple of years [00:13:00] because of what I’ve gone through and how I’ve been able to shift my own mind. ’cause 

Childhood Wounds & Running from Fear [13:03]

Jerrid Sebesta: I ran from fear for 43 years. I was raised in uncertainty. I was my, my parents divorced when I was young. My dad moved three states away. I was raised in a trailer home in southwest Minnesota.

Uh, my mom, uh, was raised in an alcoholic father. She had a massive hole in her heart, uh, not physically, emotionally, spiritually. When, when, when my parents divorced at eight, I, I immediately became the caretaker of, of my mom. Um, I was the one parenting the parent. And to add, to add more uncertainty, my older brother’s an alcoholic.

And so I was constantly trying to run from problems. I was constantly trying to always out. Out success, trying to bring certainty to what I viewed as a crazy, uncertain world. And I was so exhausted by the time I was 43 years old. And that’s when everything started to shift and I started to understand what is actually happening, what is actually going on, and is [00:14:00] it possible that the fear and uncertainty and the unknown are actually these portals, these, these springboards, these gifts, gifts, gifts to help elevate us to the next level.

Charles Eide: Yeah. You don’t really think about uncertainty and fear as a gift. Usually you feel like it’s some sort of burden that’s outta your control. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Mm-hmm. 

Charles Eide: I mean that every time I’ve had it, I, I’ve been like, okay. Mm-hmm. What do we do? I think that’s where faith comes in, because you don’t have a choice. But 

Jerrid Sebesta: think, think back to some of the most expansive seasons that you’ve had.

More times than not, they’ve come through the times where they’ve been the most turbulent. Is that, is that a coincidence? 

Charles Eide: No. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Right. And so how come we don’t as to, to your original question, how come we don’t see it that way? I mean, 

Charles Eide: it’s hard. 

Jerrid Sebesta: It’s hard, you know, again, it, it, it’s, it’s scary. We’ve gotta tap into something beyond ourselves.

And if you’re not used to doing that, I wasn’t modeled that. I’m not [00:15:00] blaming my parents, my pa I just wasn’t modeled that. And so, you know, I’ve got 40 plus years of training my mind, my body, my neurology, my, my, my, my neurological system, you know, to, to react a certain way whenever it’s, whenever it’s impressed upon with, with stimulus, like fear and uncertainty and chaos to, to react and, and you know, I, I, I’m not, you know, whatever, I mean, I’ve, I’ve done some things, well, I’ve done some things not well if I’ve done anything right in the last couple of years, it has been to.

Yeah, with everything I got unlearn the things that I’ve learned, unlearn these patterns, unlearn these things that I believe to be true and tap into something deeper. There’s, there’s a friend of mine in my hometown’s name’s Mitch, and, uh, I took Mitch out for lunch one time, and I’ve known this guy Mitch for a long time.

Turns out he’s a real estate guy. And I said, uh, Mitch, what the, what the crap do you do? I’m like, like, I never see you go to a job. You’re happy as a clam and, uh, you’re always just having fun. What do you do? It turns out he does real estate and he’s got some other [00:16:00] businesses, and, and he would share things about even about money, about business, and he would share things and we would talk.

I’m like, dude, can I just come over for an hour? And we’d talk for four hours and deep into the night, you know, and I’d literally take my fist and I’d be like, oh, he would say something, you know, and I’d be like, oh. And he goes, Jared, I’ve never met a guy. Who is trying to unlearn and unwind belief systems in his own mind like you do, you know, like to the point where I’m, he’d say something like, say that again.

And I’m just trying to like pound it into my mind. You know, what I’m saying is, is it possible that if we can change our mind, if we can change our beliefs, if we can change how the internal structure is aligned in such a way that the world opens up into our favor, I believe the answer is yes. 

Charles Eide: A lot of times we don’t know that we need to do that.

And I think no matter where you are in your journey, we can do, we, there’s opportunity to do some of that, but how do you, how do you become aware of that? Like what, what was it that was [00:17:00] reflecting to you and making you go, I need to unlearn some things? 

Jerrid Sebesta: Yeah, that’s a great question. I don’t know what everybody else could do.

I could tell you what I did. I really got to the point where I couldn’t go any further the way I was doing it. 

Charles Eide: What was, how did you know that? Yeah. What made you feel like that? 

Jerrid Sebesta: If the point I was at was coming outta COVID, it was January the first, 2022. I was on a walk with my wife, new Year’s Day. Now you wanna rewind the tape?

You know, 2020 was like one of those years that was just like, are you kidding me? You know, 2021? Like was, it was all right. It was a little better, you remember? But it was still like weird. And the chatter even back then was like, if you thought 2020 and 2021 were bad, buckle up for 2022. So like it, the, the fear was just, you know, insane.

I remember going for a walk, I, we live in rural Minnesota and my wife and I were on a walk on New Year’s Day and we got to, just to a point before our house, and I stopped her and I said, I’m, I’m just done. [00:18:00] She goes, what? I go, I’m done. She goes, done with what? You know, 

Charles Eide: as you’re like on a walk, one on one with her, she’s 

Jerrid Sebesta: like, whoa, slow down cowboy.

I go, I’m just, 

The New Year’s Day Decision [18:12]

Jerrid Sebesta: I’m done living this way. I’m done playing defense. That’s huge. I was in such a defensive posture for 43 years. I look at even the success that I had in the TV business. I had another 10 year plus career in the financial business where I was a business of, you know, uh, director of business development marketing had a lot of success in that.

If I look back, all of that was just a coping mechanism. It was me trying to run away from the, the, the uncertainty that was inevitably gonna gobble me up, up at any given time. I, I, I could never rest. I could never vacation. I never could just take it. I could never just chill. You know what I mean? The peace was not there.

Success was there on the outside, but on the inside I was so tired, dude. I was so tired. And back then I remember saying to my wife, I was like, I’m done doing this. And I’m like, [00:19:00] there are some certain people I follow online. And while 99% of people are talking about all the crap, there’s like 1% of people talking about growth, expansion opportunities.

W what are they seeing that I don’t see? What are they doing that I’m not doing? And so from that moment on, I made a decision, planted a flag pole, so to speak, and was like, I’m gonna figure out a different way. I had no idea what I was getting myself into, but I was like, I gotta find these people out. And what I started to do is I started to say yes for the first time.

I always said, no, Charles, I kid you not, five years ago, four years ago. If you said, here, read this book, it’ll change your life. It’ll, it’ll completely change your life. I’d be like, well, I mean, it’s $20. You know what I mean? That’s, that’s, that’s, I mean, that’s an hour and a half of work after taxes. That’s kind of a big investment, don’t you think?

Change my life. Are you sure? I mean, even if it did, you know what I mean? Like, you know what I’m talking about now? It’s like 27 bucks. Dude, I’ll take even one nugget. I’ll take that. I’ll go to a conference for a grand now for one nugget if that’s what I get. [00:20:00] Great. Back then I played, my defense was so hard, like I never did anything and there was a very defined cap.

As to where my life was going, even down to my income. I would joke at the time, I’m like, dude, I can make this much money in my sleep no matter where I go, no matter what state I live in, no matter what industry, I can make this much money, but God help me. I can’t make a cent over that. No matter how hard I try.

I was capped in every area of my life, physical life, my marriage, my relationship with kids all across the board. And I started saying yes. And I started reaching out to these people who were in my circles at the time that I saw thought differently. And I started talking to them and they would, they would recommend books.

And I started saying yes. I started reading more and I started getting in circles and going to conferences and getting around people who were doing things differently. And you know what I realized about these people? I used to think that these people were so smart and they’re geniuses and they know something.

I don’t know, a lot of them did, but at their core, they were somebody different. They operated from a different operating system. Their state of [00:21:00] being was different. The way that they thought, the way that they felt, the way that they acted. Their, their, their relationship with money was different. They were different people.

And through the course of time, I started to get those people into my mind, read their books, have those conversations just like I did with Mitch, like, change how I think. And over the course of time, everything started to shift and get more aligned. And then all of a sudden, the world which looked dark and bleak during COVID, when I remember during COVID, when I looked at the future, it, there was literally a color to it, Charles.

Like, I could feel the blackness. It sounds really dark, but I mean, it was a really dark time. You remember? Right. 

Charles Eide: Well, especially working in television, that’s a pretty 

Jerrid Sebesta: dark Oh my gosh. It was, everything was dark. I mean, every, all the chatter was dark. And I could feel it in my core. And when I looked at the future there, I had no hope there.

There it was like there was this calendar in my mind and it was blank. 

Charles Eide: Hmm. 

Jerrid Sebesta: It was over. That’s it. I mean, it sounds kind of [00:22:00] morbid now, but that’s where my mind was, right? And I started to open this thing up and change my beliefs and all of a sudden the world started looking color and full of life and full of opportunity.

And that’s when everything started to shift. And, and all of a sudden, like the cap started to come off and everything started to shift for me. And uh, that’s when it really started to shift for me. So, to answer your question, how do people become aware? I think if people are true to their soul, you will feel light, you’ll feel opportunistic.

You will automatically feel like an honor, I get to live this life. 

Charles Eide: Hmm. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Not that there aren’t challenges. 

Charles Eide: You feel free. 

Jerrid Sebesta: You feel free. And so if you don’t feel free, there’s something that’s out of alignment, because I don’t believe God sent our souls here to feel [00:23:00] imprisoned, enslaved in bondage. And a lot of people feel that way.

A lot of people feel that way. They feel stuck. They feel, again, almost enslaved to their own life that they helped create. That’s a really lonely spot to be. 

Charles Eide: I mean, a lot of business owners feel like that, right? Because they’re always putting everybody first, you know? Mm-hmm. They’re paying themselves last.

They’re putting everybody else first. Mm-hmm. And a lot of, a lot of business owners feel like that. I mean, I’ve talked to a lot of ’em. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Mm-hmm. 

Charles Eide: And it’s like, you know, after 20 years of doing that, it makes them question too, 

Jerrid Sebesta: what do I doing? 

Charles Eide: Well, yeah. And then you start opening up your mind to go, you know, I’m not feeling right.

Something’s wrong. And I think that’s really the. When, when something’s not feeling right. Mm-hmm. That’s a sign that there’s something else out there. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Yeah. 

Charles Eide: There’s something better for you. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Right. I think people just need to get really curious about that. Again, even to the point of getting triggered. I had a conversation with the guy [00:24:00] recently and I go, how’s, how’s it going today?

Well, I’m not, not having a good day. Why? Well, my manager has said something to me. It really bothered me. It really bothered me all day, and I was up half the night thinking about it. Cool. What did he say? Well, he basically said I wasn’t working hard enough. I’m like, well, two things, maybe he’s right. A, you know, but I go, why does that bother you?

How’s that make you feel? Well, I mean, it makes me feel unworthy if I’m being honest. You know? I’m like, okay, well, I go, I don’t believe that anybody else outside of our jurisdiction has the ability to make me feel unworthy. You know what I mean? Like, I, I’m not Charles, I love you, but I like you don’t have the keys, you don’t have the ability to make me feel unworthy.

So if you say something that makes me feel unworthy. That’s not a you problem. Guess whose problem that is? That’s a me problem. You know what I mean? And so we must get curious about all of those things. If a business owner’s been in business for a long time and feels like there, there’s no other direction, get curious about that.

Why do you feel this way? And, and, and if, if, if it is something that you can [00:25:00] adjust, amazing. Let go, go all in. I, I always tell people, go all in this, this enacts the universe to actually open the door to help you receive more. Go all in. But sometimes going all in on something actually means that we let go of something.

That make sense? 

Charles Eide: Yeah. Well, when you walked away from being on tv, 

Jerrid Sebesta: bingo, 

Charles Eide: you said you went all in. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Mm-hmm. 

Charles Eide: And that, that was interesting to me because it seems like when we, when we sometimes we go, well, I’m just gonna try this. And I, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with, Hey, give something new a try.

Mm-hmm. Right. That’s show’s courage. Now, going all in is some sort of level of insanity. To some degree, 

Jerrid Sebesta: yes. 

Charles Eide: Right, because you’re kind of trusting on blind faith. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Mm-hmm. 

Charles Eide: I mean, I feel somewhat fortunate ’cause when I started this company, I was all in. ’cause I had nothing. I didn’t have a career going, I was coming out of high school.

So going all in for me was just, it was just normal [00:26:00] life. Mm-hmm. But when you see people who are stuck in a dead end job, or you know, their business is, you know, the same year over year, and they, they’re a slave to their business or whatever, going all in on something new is, is a, is scary. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Mm-hmm. 

Charles Eide: And I want to understand how you did that when you had a family, you had a successful job that a lot of people would fight to have, and all of a sudden you jumped out of the plane.

You didn’t have a parachute. Like how, how did you get to the point where you were okay, risking. Everything you had to do that. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Right? Well, remember I walked away from a 10 plus year TV career, cold Turkey. Then I got into the financial world, 10 plus years, six figure job, highly respected company. All I gotta do is sit there and collect a paycheck.

I mean, on the outside. Again, crushing it to, 

Charles Eide: to a 

Jerrid Sebesta: lot of lot of people. That’d 

Charles Eide: be [00:27:00] like, awesome, 

Jerrid Sebesta: right? But I remember how it felt to go to that office someday. I’m not talking about there’s work to do. It’s, there’s a, there’s a, like a holy discontent. There’s something deep inside of me that feels so out of alignment by going and doing this job.

And I really felt, and again, this is all due respect to my previous employer, by the way. I have a great, I have a great relationship with my previous boss. We’ll put a legal 

Charles Eide: disclaimer down on the 

Jerrid Sebesta: bottom. Don’t sue me a, like we have a great, we still work together. In fact, I would, I would say we probably work together now and have more impact now that I don’t actually work there.

Why? Because. We both understood, like for us to go to the next level, sometimes we’ve gotta let go. In fact, 

Firing Himself & Going All In [27:44]

Jerrid Sebesta: I fired myself from that job. That’s a true story. And I get my previous boss’s name’s, Ben, a lot of credit. He sat me down one day, he goes, what’s Jared want? What an incredible question to ask from a boss.

He could’ve chewed my tail left and right. I probably would’ve fired me 50 times over. 

Charles Eide: You’re [00:28:00] not showing up with enough, uh, tchotchkes on your lapel, Jared. Yeah. Why aren’t you excited? You remember an office space in the rest, did you see office space? No. There’s a restaurant scene where I think it’s Jennifer Aniston’s working there and they call it flair Pieces of Flair.

Yeah. And, and she, you know, they were like, you’re just not showing up with enough flare. And, and she’s like, what do you mean I got flare? And then they cut to this. He’s like, well, look at Billy. Billy’s got tons of flare and he’s, you know, he’s, you know, got 50 pins on and so, so enthusiastic about taking your french fry order and she’s just a dead end job.

Not happy with it. Right. But it was super funny because like a good leader would say, Hey. You know, what do you want? Because exactly, clearly this is, 

Jerrid Sebesta: yes, 

Charles Eide: there’s something else. 

Jerrid Sebesta: And he had every right to say exactly that. Where have you been? Where’s your head at? You just don’t have that flare like you used to, which was true, right?

And uh, he asked the question, he goes, what? What’s Jared want? I go, you know what I want? Oh, I just want alignment. I wanna be [00:29:00] aligned in such a way where the things that light my heart up on fire. I wanna do those all the time, not just once in a while. You know, like while I was at that job, I had a chance to speak maybe once a quarter.

I would have really deep, high level soul level conversations occasionally. Like, I wanna have those all the time. Not only that, like I wanna travel, I wanna, you know what I mean? Like, and this isn’t like narcissistic arrogance. Like, look at me, go and I wanna make money. No. This is what I, this is what lights me up.

That feeling that I get when I do those things. I want to feel that all the time. This is what our soul craves. And he goes, what do we do? And I go, well, you fire me. He goes, seriously? I go, yeah. And he goes, when I go now, and I know that’s true. Honest to God, true story. That’s how it all went down. Wow. And so I fired myself and I left there 45 years old, four kids.

I, I was in the process of writing a book and scared as all get out, but liberated. And again, that’s, that’s no disrespect to the job. It just like, now I’m, now I’m stepping into something more. And you know what? So many people ask me, they’re like, [00:30:00] what’d your wife think? I get that question a lot. 

Charles Eide: Did she know?

Jerrid Sebesta: Here’s the thing about my wife. A, she’s 5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 5, 5. On a good day. I know she’s gonna watch this and you’re 

Charles Eide: like 6, 

Jerrid Sebesta: 6, 6. Yeah. She has seen me in the dark ages, Charles. The amount of conversations that I’ve had with that woman at three o’clock in the morning when I’m sitting on the edge of the bed and I’m like, I don’t, what am I doing?

What do I do? And she’s, you know, I come off the, she 

Charles Eide: didn’t just throw a bottle of melatonin at you and 

Jerrid Sebesta: Oh my gosh, 

Charles Eide: say shut up and go to sleep. It’s the middle of the night. 

Jerrid Sebesta: So she says most of the time, and I never would take that. She’s like, 

Charles Eide: you’re a basket case. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Isn’t it funny? Like what, you know, people like people that are basket cases like me get, get paired with these people who are just like steady at ease.

Yeah. I’m so thankful for that. She’s just rock steady like 

Charles Eide: a rock. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Absolutely. 

Charles Eide: So you’re the drama queen. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Exactly. Even though on, even though on the outside it appears like I have it all together. In fact, when I share these stories, people are kind of shocked by that’re like, I watched you on TV [00:31:00] for years.

You never 

Charles Eide: cool as a cucumber. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Absolutely. 

Charles Eide: Yeah. 

Jerrid Sebesta: It feels like you got it all together. She’s been there with me for almost 20 years. Wow. Well, 20 years plus now. I mean, as I’ve known her, not married, but coming up on 19 years of marriage. Right. 

Charles Eide: Wow. 

Jerrid Sebesta: And she’d look at me and she’s, you know, she’s short, so she’d grab you my By the Fells.

I cannot tell you how many times she’d say, Jared, if I could take it from you, I’d reach in and I’d take it from you. If I could reach in and take the brokenness and the darkness, I would. And so when she would see me make these shifts and these decisions that looked scary on the outside, she’s like, yes.

Yes. Because she knows it’s me stepping into something greater that aligns with who I am. And the interesting thing is that, you know, what’s happened to my heart through this process, it’s healed. 

Charles Eide: Hmm. 

Jerrid Sebesta: People think that they need to heal and then they move. No, no, no. The process of growing and expanding and allow more of the divinity in, right.

This, it, it, it’s, it’s, it’s a, it’s a, it’s a parallel process. As you [00:32:00] grow and expand, you ex you, you, you receive more, you experience more of your creator, and then the healing happens at the exact same time. And all these things are moving in the same direction at the same time. I remember when I left my financial job, I go, are you worried?

And she goes, Jared, I’m never worried. 

Charles Eide: Hmm. 

Jerrid Sebesta: I’ve always trusted God’s gonna take care of us. He’s done it without even a, a, a, a, a slightest hint of un uncertainty. So why would that change now? In fact, I believe it’s actually gonna get greater from here. And she was 100% right. 

Charles Eide: Wow. So some, something that, that’s really inspiring.

Expanding Your Capacity to Receive [32:32]

Charles Eide: I want to understand this concept that we spoke about around, uh, increasing your capacity or your ability to grow and become more and, you know, how did you figure out that concept, right? And then how did you start living it? 

Jerrid Sebesta: Hmm. It, it’s such a fantastic concept. I mean, pretty much everything I talk about now comes down to this idea of [00:33:00] receiving.

Let’s, let’s just kind of, let’s rewind the tape a little bit. Let was a foundational belief that I had for 43 years that started to shift after I had that walk that one day. If the biggest shift in my belief system from then to now is that life is actually happening for me. I believe for decades, life was happening to me because everything.

Up till this point, it just seemed like it was one, one fire after another. Again, there was just so much chaos growing up. I was my mom’s person throughout her, you know, throughout my adulthood. Uh, whenever there was a problem, my phone rang. My phone was always ringing, you know, like I had trained my neurology.

Every time my phone rang and I saw it was, you know, it’s just another fire I gotta put out, right? So I was constantly putting out fires. So I’m always, I’ve always got my head on a swivel and I’m always waiting for the next thing to have. The problem I gotta solve. The biggest shift for me is that actually it’s all happening for me.[00:34:00] 

Everything. 

Charles Eide: Tony Robbins talks about that a lot. That life doesn’t happen to you. Heaven for 

Jerrid Sebesta: me, for me. So we, you, we. Have to first get down to this idea that like literally down to every microscopic detail of our day from the big things, the hard things that’s cataclysmic. The leaving here and getting stopped at a stoplight, it’s all 100% somehow divinely choreographed down to the microsecond.

It’s trying to actually help us receive something more. Right. So that’s like a, that’s like a deep concept that like if we first gotta unpack, because if that is the case, that means that everything is already taken care of. The miracles aren’t waiting to happen. They’ve already happened. It’s not that God’s gonna take care of it.

No. It is taken care of. It is finished. It’s not that someday we’ll figure it out. No, it’s [00:35:00] already figured out. Maybe someday I’ll be whole, if I get this, this is how most people live. If I get this a success, then I feel validated. Someday. Someday. Someday. And then they get it, and then it doesn’t fulfill, and then it’s the next thing, right?

The irony is that I actually need to receive and become something bigger. Then that’s the trick is, is that’s actually how you get it. Isn’t that wild? Like there’s a paradox there, right? And so I feel like I just, I just envision this con uh, like a container, almost like a cup, like a, like a, like a bottle, right?

On the inside there’s this container. And for me to actually have more, do more, feel more connection, what I don’t have to do is go strive and go get it and grind. I used to do that too. Just grind away. And by the way, grinding works. That’s the problem with grinding. Grinding does work to a certain point, but there’s a def defined cap that’ll get you, and it will get you burned out if you keep going more.

Because what you’re trying to do is you’re trying to pour more energy into a [00:36:00] system that can only contain this much. So the trick isn’t trying to like pack more into the container. The trick is, is to expand the container, expand the ability to actually receive something more. And so that’s a lesson that I learned over the last couple of years, just working with different coaches and read different books.

And you know, again, like watching videos and Tony, Rob, as we talk about all these things, they’re all kind of related. They’re, it’s, it’s a lot of the same concepts just spoken a different way. And so something shifted to me where it’s like, huh, I don’t actually have to go do more. I just have to become more, I don’t have to go grind more.

I just have to learn how to actually receive more. Okay. So how do we do that? 

Charles Eide: Yeah. So I was gonna say, what, what do you mean? 

Jerrid Sebesta: It is connected to your state of being. Dr. Joe Dispenza talks about this 

Charles Eide: I love Joe, 

Jerrid Sebesta: right? Yes. How we think, how we act, and how we feel. He talks about your personal reality. He talks about how you, how you think, how you act, and how you feel makes up your personality.

Most [00:37:00] people want a transformation. They want a new life. They want more. They want to be unrecognizable in a year. That’s what I talk about, right? Like, what if, what if we had an unrecognizable life in a year? It’s very possible, but you must become somebody different. If you refuse to change how you think, how you act, and how you feel, you’ll, it’ll be Groundhogs day, every day.

And every year will look the same. And that’s how most people operate. And so it comes down to a belief system. It comes down to your emotions, your neurological system, how everything is aligned, and mostly how you think. For me, the biggest shift was in how I think, because that was the thing that was wound up.

The most interesting fact on this one, Charles, when I was going through like, what I, it was like 2023. I was reading all the books and I’m like, my mind was getting blown all the time. I went from I’m six six and I, I’ve never not worked out. So I’ve always been in kind of okay shape, you know? And for years I was like in know okay shape.

I sat at like two 15, which is definitely not overweight for six. Six. It’s not overweight. It’s not overweight. That’s, but I remember thinking like it’d [00:38:00] be awesome to go down to like two 10 or 2 0 5, you know? But I’m like, I don’t know if I can do that at my age, yada, yada, yada. And I was diving into the stuff in my mind and my body started to transform my body.

I wasn’t doing anything different, Charles. Something even shifted in my, even in my physical body, to the point where people are like, what are you doing? Like what’s your workouts? What are you eating? Are you doing this? Are you doing that? Like what program, dude, I was doing the same thing, Charles, I kid you not, I was doing the same thing and there was like a physiological, there was literally a physi, a physical change in my body that was happening on the outside because I feel like everything was starting to, the cogs in the wheel were like coming together, you know what I mean?

And so that was even happening at the time. And then all of a sudden, boom, what I believed was true started shifting. And this is a big one. I just worked with a group of people yesterday. They’re, they’re, they’re entrepreneurs. Not entrepreneurs, but they’re salesmen, they’re business owners. And I said, what do you think is possible right now?

Like, [00:39:00] here’s where you are right now, like by the end of the year, what would blow your mind as to what is possible? Is it, 

Charles Eide: don’t get asked that every day, 

Jerrid Sebesta: right? Like, you’ll get asked like, what’s your goals? What’s your revenue goals? Right? But like, what’s a reality that would blow your mind? Well, you know, this many clients, this many accounts, you know, this much money, cashflow, whatever.

I said, I don’t, I don’t do five year visions. I do generally around one year. Because if you do and you expand and you grow and you shift these things that we talked about, you won’t be the same person. You will expand and grow into somebody else. You will literally be a new human being. And then that person, the, the, the, the, the thing that really dictates whether a person is shifting on the inside, it’s to the level by which they believe.

If I look at my past in the last couple of years, what I believed a year ago is way different than what I believe is possible now. You know what I’m saying? For sure. Sure. And I rewind the tape a year before that. It doesn’t hold a candle to last year’s [00:40:00] version, right? And so I look at my whiteboard for, you know, this year and what I want to expand into that is impossible to do in my current self.

It’s, these are goals that are impossible as it stands right now. Yeah. 

Charles Eide: You gotta, you gotta become someone else. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Bingo. That’s the key. 

Charles Eide: But it, it doesn’t stop. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Never stops. It’s, it’s a, it’s a, it’s a prog, it’s a process that will never stop, that has no limit. That will take us as much as we’re willing to go.

Charles Eide: But 

Shifting from Fixed to Growth Mindset [40:29]

Charles Eide: what flipped your mind from being in such a fixed mindset to being this ever-growing mindset? Mm-hmm. Because those are two totally different mindsets and it’s almost like that’s the genie in the bottle that unlocks all the wishes. But you gotta get there first. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Life. Life gave me the teaching lessons exactly when I needed them.

And they gave me exactly the lessons I needed to know. [00:41:00] Let’s rewind the tape. I quit, I fire myself from my, my W2 corporate job, my financial job. I leave the parking lot that day. 45 years old. Four kids, no backup plan. I am the backup plan. I had committed to writing a book. That book was gonna launch three and a half months later on November the 20th.

So that whole fall, I’m like, just get me to November the 20th. Just get me to November 20th, right? So I can launch this book and, you know, start generating a business and some income. Right? November 20th comes, I launched my book. It did everything it was supposed to do. It gave me a, you know, a, a wave of online momentum.

My phone started to ring, you know, started to get some speaking gigs. All right, cool. This is awesome. Right? Two weeks to the day. Later on December the third, 2024, 

Identity Theft: The Ultimate Test [41:44]

Jerrid Sebesta: I got my identity stolen. Not like. Not a little one like, like big one Financial 

Charles Eide: too. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Oh yeah. Like all of it. Like it started off. This is true.

It started off as a Facebook hack, and then when I woke up and my, you know, my phone’s going, ding, ding, ding. You know, your account has been compromised. Is this you? Blah, [00:42:00] blah, blah, blah, blah. By 10:00 AM they had my social security number, they had my driver’s license number. Then password started getting changed all over the place.

Against my will. Now all of a sudden I’m getting locked out of accounts. Then by four, five o’clock in the afternoon, now money starts leaving my accounts. So from five until 11 o’clock. And is this this perpetual process? It was the whole, it was the worst day of my life. I’m not, not trying 

Charles Eide: to, you’re watching this 

Jerrid Sebesta: unfold.

Oh, yeah. And you can’t stop it. Like it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s accelerating. The avalanche is getting bigger and faster as the day goes on. More and more outta control. And then it got real once they started pulling money outta my accounts. And then from like five until 11 o’clock at night, my wife and I were both on the phone frantically trying to like, figure this out.

I would take this, I, I mean, I can’t believe I’m admitted. There would, I’d go to breaks and I would, I would take a break from a phone and I’d go into the bathroom and I would dry. I was dry heaving. Mm. And I’m screaming with terror. I’m on the floor curled up like a, like a baby. Screaming and terror. My kids are terrified.

They’re [00:43:00] terrified. I’m terrified by 11 o’clock that night. My na, my name is on a national fraud list. My credit is frozen. I’m out thousands of dollars. I have no social media account. I can barely get into my own computer. My phone is still going. Bing, bing. It was just ter every time I still have a little PTSD when my phone dings, you know, it’s like, oh gosh, what now, dude, real?

Charles Eide: I’m gonna go change all my passwords right now. I’m gonna 

Jerrid Sebesta: tell you that everybody goes to bed. I don’t sleep a wink. As you could probably imagine, four o’clock in the morning, I’m sitting in my living room. It’s December, it’s cold, it’s dark, it’s Minnesota like, it’s just, there’s a, there’s a dark feeling to the weather anyway, and it was one of the darkest spots.

And I, I texted my friend Craig, he’s out in New York City, so it’s like 5:00 AM Craig time. I text Craig. I haven’t talked to anybody since this whole thing went down. I said, Craig, if you [00:44:00] got 30 seconds, call me. Phone rings.

Dude, without hesitation, Craig says, this is gonna be the best thing that ever happens to you. I said, what? He goes, you launched your book two weeks ago. I go, two weeks to the day. He goes, the fact that this showed up in your movie at this time when it did is 100% proof that there’s something so powerful waiting for you on the other side.

I, I, I, dude, I remember 

Charles Eide: you’re like, what did you have for breakfast? 

Jerrid Sebesta: This is exactly what I said. The, the, that that conversation was so powerful. I can remember exactly what he said. He literally then said, I kid you not, he said, we will laugh about this one day. Not today, not tomorrow, not next week.

There’ll be a day. We’ll laugh about this. You’ll be so thankful that this happened. He goes, Hmm. He goes, be honored this happened. Be flattered that this showed up in [00:45:00] your movie that God would trust you so much. With this event. He goes, don’t fight it. ’cause remember like, like I’m boiling. 

Charles Eide: Yeah, you wanna go to war?

Jerrid Sebesta: I wanna go to war. I wanna go on my wife’s Facebook. I wanna find these people. I’m gonna scream, yell, cry, I wanna do it all. He goes, what an opportunity. He goes, do you have any social media? I go, I got nothing. He goes, great. You have nothing to do. You can spend more time with your wife and family this week.

And I’m like, what? And he said this. He goes, your social media accounts all the money that’s been stolen. He goes, the faster you surrender that, the faster it’ll come back. He goes, I want you to sit in the uncomfortable and watch. I didn’t believe it, but he said it with such conviction that I believed him.

And every time I felt that worry, fear, anxiety, I wanna scream, I want to yell, I wanna run away, do I wanna run away? So freaking bad. [00:46:00] I remember Craig and I sat and I just felt it and I just rose above it. And I just tried to inject certainty, faith, belief, surrender into the system. And I gotta tell you, that whole month of December, Charles, if you look at my, my camera roll, there’s nothing, there’s like a 30 day gap.

I didn’t do anything. I just sat. It was so uncomfortable. I just sat. And what I can realize now is there is something shifting. There was God gave me, he gave me that. That was not the devil. I heard that from a lot of people. Oh, the devil’s trying to take it, man. You wrote a book and and now the devil’s trying to take your light away.

No, no, no, no, no, no. That was 100% divine. Whether he caused it, allowed it, I don’t know. We’ll figure it out someday. It was allowed divinely precisely, exactly when I needed it. It was exactly what I needed. ’cause there was something in my mind, in my heart and my emotions that needed to get corrected. And there was no other way unless that were to happen.

I’ll spare you the details. I go into 2025 [00:47:00] with my tail between my legs, scared as hell, and all of a sudden, boom, the trajectory starts going like this. He was right. March 16th, three months later, 

Losing His Mom [47:11]

Jerrid Sebesta: mom passed away. Not unexpected. She had dementia. Uh, she had Alzheimer’s. She had heart failure. She was in a memory care facility in my hometown.

I had a chance to spend the last nine months with her in that memory care facility. I spent more time with my mom the last nine months of her life than I did for 25 years. 

Charles Eide: Wow. 

Jerrid Sebesta: And I had a chance. Hmm. God opened a door so I could be close to my mom the last nine months of her life. And I could tell her all the things that I’ve told her for years.

I told her the truth. I, those last moments, Charles, not even ours, moments, I told her the truth, the, the truth I’ve been telling her since she was eight years old. She’s a beautiful woman. She was worthy of love. You’re validated. You don’t, you’re, you’re, you’re, I loved being your son. She’d ask me that as a child.

She’d say, Jared, was I a good [00:48:00] mom? And I’d say yes. And did she make some mistakes? Yes. ’cause she’s human. Right. But I always tried to see her the way that God saw her. And I took her to, I took her to the, she passed away. I was alone in a room with her and bedside arm around her. It was the most powerful moment of my life.

Charles, hands down, not the best, the most powerful. That night my wife asked me, she goes, how do you feel? I said, number one, I feel so honored. I feel so honored that God gave me this sacred role to be her person throughout the first 46 years of my life, so I could love her. And he gave me the opportunity to literally walk that woman home.

And I said, secondly, I feel so powerful. I just lost a parent. And you can’t prepare yourself for that. [00:49:00] But I felt like God was inviting me to a new level. He took, because of that experience that he gave me, it took me and elevated me to another level. Eight days later, I’m on a stage in front of 400 state teachers at a college in Southeast Minnesota, and I share the story of my mom and there’s not a dry eye in the crowd.

And I, it was just, it was this incredible, it was like one of the most powerful talks I’ve ever done to share that story for the first time. Because what I was trying to tell that audience is like, if you can shift to what you believe is true about yourself, your whole world will change it. If you don’t like where your life is at, if you feel stuck, if you feel like you’re not even honoring who you actually are, you feel like that you’re operating on 10%, that you’re like not, you’re not true to who you are, which by the way I just heard today on a podcast, is the most conflicting stress we will ever go through is living a life that is not authentic to who we are.

There’s nothing more stressful than having to get up and [00:50:00] go to a fricking life or a job that isn’t in alignment to who we are. And if we can shift the belief system, is it possible that the world will actually choreograph it in such a way that it’ll actually propel us and give us exactly what I need to get to that level?

And I watched the life now taking over, and I felt so powerful after that moment, 10 weeks later, 

Losing His Brother [50:21]

Jerrid Sebesta: my brother passed away, overdose outta the blue. 

Charles Eide: Totally unexpected, 

Jerrid Sebesta: totally unexpected. My dad calls me at 1223 in the morning. Now when my dad calls me at 1223 in the morning, you 

Charles Eide: pick up that 

Jerrid Sebesta: call. I knew. I knew this is not good news.

My brother had been an addict for ever since I’ve been alive. If you have an addict in your family, you prepare yourself for that phone call. But when you get it, it’s surreal. And so I’m literally saying, what’s up, dad? And I know exactly what he’s gonna say. [00:51:00] And he said it. In that moment, heartbreak, I’d now just lost my brother.

Charles Eide: Were you, were you close with him? 

Jerrid Sebesta: Yes and no. We were starting to rekindle our relationship because our mom was in memory care and I was taking care of her, and he had been sober for a number of years, and so we were rekindling a relationship. In fact, just to backtrack, when, when our mom passed, he was the first person I called.

I’m next to our mom. She just passed away holding her hand. On the phone with my brother and we had a really great conversation. He thanked me for all the care that I’d taken care of my mom that, ’cause it was kind of, we were the ones kind of getting her there and pressing in and, and helping take care of her.

And he thanked me. That was the last time I ever talked to him. Wow. He, he started using again and I could never get ahold of him and I kind of knew what was happening. So again, when my dad called me, I knew what he was gonna say. One piece of me, heartbreak, I lost my brother. I now lost half my family.

It’s not even the midpoint of the year yet. [00:52:00] I was heartbroken for his two kids. His grandkids are family. Another piece of me, it’s weird for me to say this. Got excited. Obviously I wasn’t excited because of what had happened, but I was starting to understand. How God is perfectly choreographing my life. I wasn’t asking the questions, why is this happening?

But I knew because I had just gone through my mom’s passing and I had just gone through the loss of my identity that this is how the game works. God will give you everything that you need in perfect timing so he can actually elevate you. And so I, I was starting to learn the lesson. You asked the question like, how did you get there?

Life was showing me because I was opening myself up to actually seeing the technology of how this world works. And then life started actually giving me exactly what I needed, not only in blessing, but in like the cataclysmic things that were outside of my control as well, because I didn’t have control over that.

And so what can I do except [00:53:00] just do exactly what Craig told me to do and accept it and receive it with honor? The most powerful people in this world receive not only the blessings, it’s easy to receive the blessings. Can you receive the cataclysmic with honor and receive them just like you receive the blessing?

And the more that I do that, and the more that I observe powerful people, those are the ones that go to the next level. Their capacity, their cup starts to open up and they start to receive something more. I thought about this on the drive here today. If, if, if you don’t, if you don’t mind.

I did a talk in Nebraska one time, and at the time I was talking about how I do, I do morning gratitude walks. I don’t share that a lot from stage anymore, but afterwards, there was this older couple and the wife comes up to me, she goes, you know, I, I, I do what you do, you know, I started doing G Morning Gratitude walks a couple of years ago.

And, and uh, right after I started doing that, our daughter got diagnosed with brain cancer. [00:54:00] Tell me more. Is she okay? She is okay, but it was really, really scary and I was so glad that I had started doing a morning gratitude walk because that helped me get through that period.

Is it possible, I’m just gonna pose the question, Charles, is it possible that once God started seeing her, open her soul to something more, more gratitude, more. To see life through a spiritual lens. Is it possible that then God knew that it was okay to release that into her movie? I’m not saying yes. I’m just saying is it possible?

You see what I’m saying? She thought that the reason why she got through it was because of her morning gratitude walk. I said, maybe it was released and held on until you were ready to actually withstand it. [00:55:00] So it wasn’t one of those things that crushed you, but actually elevated you. That’s what I see when I look at 2025.

I saw myself digging into my beliefs. I saw myself digging into under trying to understand my emotions, getting curious about what’s happening in here, finding alignment, and then God’s like, yes, yes, he’s available. And then releases these cataclysmic events into my movie. Not to punish me. Not to crush me, but to actually elevate me because he waited until I was ready.

You see? You see it? Mm-hmm. Is it is? Is it possible our lives are choreographed down to that level? I think it is. I think it is. And that helps me give the lens by which I look at every piece of my day down to the people that are in it. Me getting stopped at a stoplight. Me like losing a business deal, me getting a win, me having an amazing opportunity to share all of it is for me.

And you elevate to the next level. When you look at all those things, [00:56:00] you say, what’s the lesson here? What is life trying to show me? What is something inside of me that I can correct? Because when I correct something in here, my capacity increases and God’s like, yes, he’s ready. Right? You’re a father. Do you not wanna give everything to your children?

Charles Eide: Everything. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Everything. And here’s the deal, you have the resources to make all of their dreams come true. Right. You know what I’m saying? I mean, I, I mean my, my, I have a son that’s 15, you know, he’s, uh, he’s on the verge of getting his license. 

Charles Eide: Yeah. My, I, my daughter is, 

Jerrid Sebesta: I saw that. I saw that. And my, my son’s into cars.

And, uh, you know what? I could buy the kid probably like a Porsche nine 11 if I really wanted to. I, I, but I wouldn’t, but I wouldn’t. Right. That would be foolish, 

Charles Eide: foolish, 

Jerrid Sebesta: foolish. Why? Because I don’t love him. No, because he’s not ready. He doesn’t have the capacity to understand that yet. But I want to. But you know what?

As soon as he’s ready, guess what? Let’s go, baby. You see my point hundred percent. Why? Why? Why is this so hard to understand that this world is cor Why? You know, I’m, I’m gonna answer my own question. [00:57:00] It’s because we get stuck in the 1%. We get stuck in the 1%. I used to be a weather guy, so I’ll use a weather analogy.

There’s a tropical storm on an ocean, right? High winds. The surface of that ocean, huge waves, swells white water, chaos. You go down 30, 40, 50 feet under the ocean, what’s down there? Peace. 

Charles Eide: Yeah. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Calm. You got, you might have 2, 3, 4 miles of ocean water and it is still and peaceful. And so many of us, we live in that, that, that, that 1%, don’t we?

Yeah. That’s how I lived Charles, for, for decades. I lived in the 1% constantly reacting to my, my external circumstances, building realities off of belief systems that weren’t even real constantly, like just walking around like a scared, like scared of my own shadow. What’s gonna happen next? And I got so sick and tired of it.

I, I had no other option. It my life allowed me to get to that [00:58:00] point. To build me up. And now I look at life, you know, again, you scroll Instagram, watch the news for 40 seconds. It’s terrible. Oh my gosh. You like, you’ll be, you’ll be on the verge of an anxiety attack all the time. And that’s where a lot of people live, with all due respect.

And so I’m not suggesting ignore that. I don’t ignore that stuff. I rise above it and I’ve trained my mind and my belief system to see the 99, not the 1%. It’s just an illusion. It’s just an illusion. 

Charles Eide: So you don’t get stressed out very much anymore. 

Jerrid Sebesta: I do. But here’s the deal. Here’s the deal. Not as much and for not as long.

Charles Eide: Mm. 

Jerrid Sebesta: You see pain is inevitable. Suffering’s a choice. Lemme say it again. Pain is inevitable. There are things that are gonna happen that are painful. You’ll lose somebody that’s painful. Somebody will say something that’s not very nice. Ouch, that hurts. But suffering is a choice. If we can put on this spiritual lens, you’ll experience painful things.

Losing my mom and my brother was painful. But [00:59:00] it was so strange, Charles, I cried when, when, when my family members died. And I’m not suggesting like, oh, I just moved on. I didn’t suffer. I still grieve. I still miss them dearly, but I don’t suffer. That’s a choice. Somebody can offend me and I, I can, I can hurt, but I hold onto that grudge.

I don’t forgive. Now you’re suffering. I wonder how much of our lives or how much suffering we’re enduring, and God’s saying, just see it. Let go, surrender. Do the work desire, go all in. Do your part, but live in this spot of wholeness and surrender where you understand it’s all taken care of. It’s just an illusion and it’s actually happening for you.

Is, is it possible, I just posed that question again. Is it possible to live in that realm? And I think it is, and the more that I do that, the more my container expands and the more I actually receive. More effortlessly than what I [01:00:00] could make with my own two hands. 

Charles Eide: How do you contrast the kind of let go, let go of all that with, you know, doing your part, you know, because you can’t just sit back, kick your feet up and be like, what, why isn’t this all happening?

What’s going on? Like, how do you balance that? I mean, most of the people that listen to my podcast are pretty high performing people. Absolutely. But how do you contrast, you know, relaxing and letting go with 

Jerrid Sebesta: Yeah. 

Charles Eide: You know, doing your part. 

Jerrid Sebesta: It’s a great question. I’m glad that you acknowledge that this is pretty much for high achievers and I’m a high achiever.

I’m like, I’m just high frequency. I want to go get it too. So I, I speak to this audience as well. It’s both, it’s not one or the other. But let’s break this down for a second. And I, I, I, and, and for the sake of sounding weird and, and crazy, I know that you’ve given me the green light to go there, so I’m just gonna go there.

All right. If you think I’m crazy, you think I’m crazy, but like, there’s the masculine energy, it’s the doing, it’s the grinding, [01:01:00] it’s the producing, it’s the work, right? It’s the like, get up and like, let’s get after it. Right? And there’s the feminine, it’s the receiving, it’s the, it’s the wholeness, it’s the be still, it’s the nurturing, the, the softer side.

So which one is it? Well, it’s both right? Well, high achievers tend to be great at the masculine. They suck at the feminine right now, some people, maybe not people that listen to this podcast or watch it, you know, like some people are like, they, they’re not doing enough. You know what I mean? It’s like you gotta get in the game a little bit.

And I, and I’m a Christian and I come from a faith background, and so I hang around with, a lot of people have faith, and I love them dearly, but a lot of people have faith. They’re, they’re a little bit too much. Like, I’m just waiting on the Lord, you know, I’m just. I am just praying and, uh, just waiting. And I think like God’s like, go move.

Right? In Exodus 13, 14, like the Israelites are leaving, you know, they’re, they’re, they’re, they’re exiting Egypt, right? Pharaoh’s [01:02:00] chasing after them. They’re complaining to Moses, you know, like, oh my gosh, you brought us out here to die. We’ve just been better off. If we were just back in Egypt, at least we could die and, you know, have graves or whatever, you know what I mean?

And so, like God tells Moses, just tell him to walk. Just tell him to get up and walk. Do something. Take the ball to the mid court line, right? And so they did that. In, in that story, the proverbial mid-court line was the edge of the Red Sea. He didn’t tell him how he was gonna finish the story. He didn’t tell him how it was all gonna shake out.

He just said, walk. And so they walked as far as they could, and they got to the edge of the Red Sea. They couldn’t go any further. They looked behind them here. They’re coming, waiting to kill them. And what happened? God showed up. He parted the Red Sea. He created a way. Isn’t that incredible? He does ask us to do our part, doesn’t he?

Charles Eide: Yeah. 

Jerrid Sebesta: There is something we have to do. There is work, there is masculine energy, and then he shows up. He finishes it. I love this [01:03:00] saying, I, I, I, I’ll, I’ll end events or talks with this. You start it. God finishes it. You put in the effort, then surrender. Maximum effort, maximum surrender. You want, you want more momentum in your life?

Go max. Go all in baby and want it and desire it and believe that you’re worthy to have it right, but at the very same time, be completely detached to the outcome. Be so whole that if you get it, amazing, if it comes out better, great. If you lose it, great. If you gain everything, amazing. If I lose everything, wonderful.

Can you be so whole in that spot, but also desire it and put in all the work? It’s that duality is where the magic happens. Does that make sense? 

Charles Eide: Yeah, that’s 

Jerrid Sebesta: good. So there is something that you have to do, but people that are high achievers, they’re really bad at receiving. They’re not as good at receiving as what they think that they are.

Right? 

Charles Eide: Yeah. I can attest to that. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Mm-hmm. 

Charles Eide: Yeah. I feel that this stuff is so [01:04:00] great. One of the things that you’ve always reminded me of is. Pat Lencioni writes a really great, uh, he, he has a great book, the Ideal Team Player. Mm-hmm. I don’t know if you’ve read that one. Mm-hmm. Yep. He talks about being humble, hungry, and smart.

And you’ve been all three of those things. I mean, ever since I met you, I’m like, he’s the perfect combination. But you, you’re doing some things right now that are pretty neat. 

The Breakthrough Event [1:04:23]

Charles Eide: You’re putting on an event, this’ll be your second event. Mm-hmm. And then you obviously wrote the book, and I wanna talk about those two things really quick.

So tell me about the event that you’re putting on. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Yeah, so the first event that I did was, uh, in late 2025. I call it breakthrough. And uh, the main gist is to have breakthrough in our minds, our money, and our life. So everything that I do with that, uh, revolves around trying to breakthrough in those three areas.

I think that. Most people, they want breakthrough in one or three of those areas. I am tend to be a [01:05:00] mindset guy, but I don’t want to be just the mindset guy either. You know what I mean? Like, let’s make it more applicable to life. Let’s make it more applicable to how we make money and, and elevate our businesses and our teams as well.

Yeah. So more to come on that, but yeah, I, I, I do plan on doing event later this year, and it will be called Breakthrough. And I, and I love that idea. You know, Tony, that’s a Tony Robbins thing, right? Mm-hmm. Breakthrough. What is breakthrough? Let’s just go there for a second. What does that mean? Well, I mean, it could mean a number of things to me, breakthrough is anytime we elevate to a new level and, and, and that breakthrough honors who we actually are, it honors our most authentic self, the way that God created us to be.

And to your point, we’ve mentioned it already. There is no limit. That’s the, that’s the thing that gets me so excited about life. I get an opportunity every day, God willing, and there are gonna be hard things, challenging things, good things, blessings, all the, probably all the above. And all that’s asked of me is all I gotta do is engage with the process.

And the more that I engage with it, the higher he takes me and the more fulfillment and peace and impact and purpose and feeling I get. This [01:06:00] is what our soul craves, right? Mm-hmm. And so I love that word breakthrough because it, to me, it, it just represents us going to the next level. So that’s that. 

Charles Eide: Yeah.

I love that. Uh, 

Life Un-Deferred: The Book [1:06:09]

Charles Eide: I want to just ask you about your book, first of all, what’s it about and where do we find it? 

Jerrid Sebesta: Thank you. Yeah. It’s called Life Un Deferred. Um, the subtitle is How to Unlock the Dream Life Already Inside and have an amazing, bold, exciting life. Is that possible to have that? I think it is, but it won’t come someday.

It won’t just come your way. I used to think that. I, I, I, someday it’ll show up, and then I’ll feel it. No, no, no, no, no. I feel it now. I become it now then my reality actually bends towards me, right? So you can find it, uh, at Amazon. That’s probably the easiest place to find it. But that, that book is kind of broken up into three parts.

It’s understanding like truths about your life. Let’s get rid of some of these blockages that are getting in our own way. And then there’s more application [01:07:00] in the back of the book of kind of like a seven step process of how you can start to map that out. And it’s, it’s what I, it’s what I teach people.

It’s where I start with everybody on, on, on, on, on this process of becoming somebody more. It’s interesting, like a sales team will bring me in and they think, I’m gonna talk strategy, I’ll talk strategy at all. I’m just talking like inner work, you know? And it’s not for everybody all the time. But that, that’s, that’s to me, if I’m trying to transform people’s lives, it’s an inner game.

Charles, you know, this. 

Charles Eide: Yeah, it’s a big inner game. Mm-hmm. That’s probably the hardest battle to fight is the one in your mind. 

Jerrid Sebesta: But isn’t it interesting that business people or high achievers typically are the ones that are, that understand that the most? Why is that? Why is, why does, why does business, why are a lot of business people in the personal development world while you’re dealing, 

Charles Eide: that’s how you got there.

Jerrid Sebesta: Yeah. Well, you’re dealing with uncertainty because there’s no certainty. You’re dealing with the unknown. 

Charles Eide: You’re dealing with people. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Dealing with people, and you’re dealing with money. So two of the, those things will bring out every [01:08:00] impurity inside of you. 

Charles Eide: They do 

Jerrid Sebesta: you right, what I’m saying? And then you combine that with your ego, fear, lack, and scarcity, and you’ve got problems.

Oh yeah. That’s why business is so scary and why so many people don’t go into business because it’s too, it’s too much. And so that’s why so many people gravitate towards the inner game because they understand this is the game. You want more outta life. It’s, it truly is an inner game. 

Charles Eide: Mm. Okay. Lastly. What do you want to be remembered for?

Hmm.

Jerrid Sebesta: My daughter Raya, who doesn’t get real sappy with me. I wish she would. You know, we wish that, don’t we? Gosh, we, it’s the age I went on New Year’s Eve this last year. I went to bed at like nine o’clock. ’cause I’m old and that’s what time I go to bed. Right? She’d sent me a text at midnight and I didn’t, you know, obviously get it till the next day.

And she was like, I am [01:09:00] so proud of you. I know I don’t tell you this a lot, but I see you pushing the envelope. I see you. I see you from my 14-year-old, 13-year-old. I see you always never getting content, never settling. Never just taking the status quo. And I’m sure I’m an annoying dad because I’m always, this is, this is my energy, right?

These are the conversations I wanna have with kids. And you know, when they start fighting with each other, I’m like, you, you understand that you’re actually hurting yourself because that’s resentment you have towards him, and you’re actually hurting your own ability to receive. They hate it. Right? You know, you know what I’m talking about.

But she’s like, I see you and I’m so proud of you. And so I don’t wanna be remembered for the weather person or all that stuff. But for a guy who is like my, like my friend Mitch said, I just, I’m inspired by you because of how you press in. You just don’t take it for as is. You’re searching for something deeper.

I do not [01:10:00] claim to have it figured out. Again. I feel like God has giving me a story. I thank you for having me on this show so I could share this story. That’s all I have is my story. My content’s not that great, but this the story, yes, it’s get outta here. It’s just through the, it’s just through the lens of my life.

That’s all I can give people. That’s all I’ve got. Right. And so a guy who is never satisfied and wants everything that God could possibly open the door to receive from, that’s what I wanna be known for. 

Charles Eide: Hmm. It’s great. And it’s inspiring. It inspires me, for sure. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Likewise. Not to get sappy on the show. I appreciate our friendship.

I don’t know if you know the full story of how we got connected. I felt very connected in this. And it sound in a weird way, very, very non weird way. But before you knew who I was, I felt very drawn to you. 

Charles Eide: Hmm. 

Jerrid Sebesta: And it was when I was going through a. There was a particular, you know, coaching program or something, and it was like, identify three people that don’t know who you are, but you want them to know you and you [01:11:00] want to get to know them.

You’re number one. A hundred percent. 

Charles Eide: Wow. 

Jerrid Sebesta: And so thank 

Charles Eide: you. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Everything lined up. And there I didn’t even, I didn’t even, this is before all of this. Like I didn’t, I didn’t even know what you did at the time. So there was nothing that I wanted and I still don’t. I hope you understand that. Of course, there’s nothing I want, of course, but I was like, I felt drawn.

And if you could just go through, even like the way that we met and the first time I came here and how we got connected and now we’re friends. You can’t make this stuff up. So again, I wanna leave people with this thought. Your life is more choreographed than what you understand, but at the same time, you have more power than you’ve been led to believe.

Yes, your life is choreographed, but you get a say, you get a say. You get a chance to co-create with your creator in such a way, and he will take you as far and as high as you want to go. And this, our relationship to me is just one mini example of that. And so I think that you are just getting started, just getting, you haven’t even, you haven’t [01:12:00] even scratched the tip of the iceberg, nor have I, I’m 40, I’m older than you, dude.

I’m almost 50 and I’m like, just getting started. You, you go to the next level. It’s just the, it’s just a tip. It’s, it’s just a taste. It, we’re just at the, the appetizer. Yeah. So I just wanna commend you and I just wanna speak that over you. You’re just getting started. You haven’t even gotten started yet.

This is just the pre-game warmup. 

Charles Eide: I know. And I’m so impatient. My amazing team constantly is like, Hey, be patient. Okay. I just had this conversation with Sarah who runs the podcast. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Wait, on the Lord. 

Charles Eide: She, I’m telling you, she’s like, you are being impatient and you need to chill. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Right. 

Charles Eide: Uh, but I appreciate that and I’m grateful for you as well.

And I thank you for coming and joining me and sharing your beautiful story. It is, it is inspiring and I’m sure a lot of people are gonna take something really great away from it. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Thank you. So 

Charles Eide: thank you, Jared. It’s great having you. 

Jerrid Sebesta: Love you man. 

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